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How does the roof rail seal install into the retainer?

Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 3:31 pm
by V8PunkRocket
I’m a bit confused as to how the roof rail seal slides into its retainer - if that’s what the metal piece is called.

The grooves molded in the rubber aren’t shaped in a way that would allow it to slide into retainer.

I figure it’s one of three things: 1) I’ve got the wrong roof rail seal, 2) I’ve got the wrong metal retainer piece, or 3) the answer is obvious but I’m too oblivious or low-IQ to see it (likely).

Can anyone shed some light?

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Re: How does the roof rail seal install into the retainer?

Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 8:53 pm
by Faulkner
Are we talking about the weatherstrip that pops into the roof rail that screws into the roof, into which the windows roll up? On a previous occasion you post this pic:

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Is #4 in this pic, the metal piece you are holding in your hand?

It doesn't look like mine - I can try to take some pix of mine when I replace the quarter window weatherstripping (my current ones are not flocked, and the window binds when sliding into place. I got flocked ones from Quirey). Perhaps tomorrow? I'll show you the cross section of my weatherstripping as well.

Dan

P.S. what's your name?

Re: How does the roof rail seal install into the retainer?

Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 10:52 am
by V8PunkRocket
Hello Dan,

My name is Brian.

The metal piece I had in my hand is the 1st of the three in the photo (on the right side)

I have 3 metal pieces that look like they go around the roof opening. I do have a manual which shows this image, but I can’t really gleam enough from it to figure out how this weatherstripping installs.

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The image of the cross-section of the seal is one of the two styles that came in the box. I’m guessing it’s for the 1/4 window since that doesn’t open and close with a door.

Anyway, yes, any images you have would be very helpful! Thanks so much!

Re: How does the roof rail seal install into the retainer?

Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 1:59 pm
by Faulkner
Brian,

Here's a pic of my retainer strip in the car, with the door window weatherstripping pulled out - you'll notice that the reproduction weatherstripping is in two pieces, the front has a different shape than the rear (the originals were molded in a single piece). Where the quarter window comes in contact with the weatherstrip by moving up, the door window closes onto the weatherstripping:

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weatherstripping out
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weatherstripping in


Gary Goers used to make the reproduction weatherstripping; Quirey bought his operation, they now sell it - you can find their website here. In fact, I recently bought flocked quarter sections from them, something I couldn't get from Gary - the quarter window has a tendency to bind on the weatherstripping without flocking.

Here you can see the different profile of the front and rear weatherstripping - but note that, unlike yours, both of my sections have ears that latch into the grooves of the retainer:

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door window weatherstrip profile
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quarter window weatherstrip profile

Brian wrote:The image of the cross-section of the seal is one of the two styles that came in the box.
Which box - was it one that came with the car, or something you purchased? I believe they are incorrect for our application.

Dan

Re: How does the roof rail seal install into the retainer?

Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 3:11 pm
by V8PunkRocket
I believe you may be right. I attached a photo of the ends of both styles of weatherstrip that I have.

I bought these from Andy Bernbaum’s eBay store last November; they are listed as 1957-1959 Dodge/Plymouth 2 door hardtop roof rail weatherstrip. But they definitely differ from yours, so maybe I do have the wrong ones.

I’ll get in touch with Quirey’s this week and perhaps order new ones from them. I need to order some other odds and ends from them anyway.