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59 golden commando
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:41 pm
by JJ
Did the 59 361 GC have one or two 4 barrel carborators
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:13 pm
by Matthew Keij
The Golden commando had 2 carbs. This is a pic of Ed Eckerson's GC:
https://59plymouth.net/showcase/images/eckerson/10.jpg
So you got a 59 Ply? Tell us more! And please register
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:29 pm
by J&J
Took your advice and registered. Proud owner of a 59 sport fury 1/25 promo. Big fan of 57-60 Plymouths. Thanks for your response.
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:31 pm
by Matthew Keij
Thanks for joining! Cool, what colour is your promo?
Haha, a promo showcase
That would be awesome
Promo
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:53 pm
by J&J
White 2dr with green roof, mint condition, might be reissue. I also have a 60 Fury, metallic blue, original JoHan promo in near mint condition has some "hood smile". The 60 Fury is an obession with me since my dad owned a 60 sport fury in 1960 when I was 15. That made me the coolest kid in the neighborhood. In retrospect the 59 has better lines. Also collecting articles and dealer lit on 57-60 plymouths. The Sonoramic 383 cid was introduced in 60 but was the Golden Commando 361 also an option in 60?
golden commando comment
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:06 pm
by ilikeplymouth2
not all golden commando engines had 2- 4 barrels right? some were single 4 barrels, right? my savoy has a 361 with a single 4 barrel.
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:08 am
by Faulkner
361GCs were a single 4-barrel from the factory. There's a debate right now as to how two 4-barrels appeared on some GCs. It's thought that dealers had extra stock from the '58 model year (which also was a recession year), and that they offered it as an option to customers. There doesn't seem to be any actual documentation, though, so it's unclear...
Dan
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:29 am
by Matthew Keij
Oh sorry! That's true Dan! I wasn't thinking about that! Just looked for a pic
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:38 pm
by rogerh
I dont have my Parts Book handy, but maybe someone could check this possibility: did Dodge offer 2x4 in 59? If so, that would provide another way a Plymouth owner could "upscale" his car. I know that Dodge had 361's in 1959...
More fuel for the fire!!
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:06 pm
by Faulkner
Tom Fox sent Ed Eckerson a scan of a page from his parts book, and Ed sent me a photocopy. I checked my parts book, which I purchased from Myles Walker (the one who restored Tom Gerrard's SF, with 2x4 carbs) -- lo and behold, I have the same page! Perhaps, Forward Look Frank -- this is the same page that Myles showed you to prove his case.
What this page shows is that, as of 9/15/58, 2 air cleaners were an option on some '59 models -- and that there were forward and rear carburetors. Were these ever installed at the factory, or were they ever only parts available for dealers? At any rate, does this settle the question -- that 2x4's were an option on '59 Plymouths?
Dan
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:39 pm
by rogerh
To my mind, all this proves is the parts were made available which fit the 59 Plymouth. This information does not state, nor prove that '59 Plymouths came out of the factory with 2x4s. Hence, 2x4 Plymouths should not be called factory-equipped.
Dual Fours
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:42 am
by ozark59
Hi, Did the 59 offer the 318 w/dual fours as did the 58?
Thanks, Dennis
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:45 am
by Matthew Keij
I believe they only did it at the 361's in 58 on the 59 models.
They we're just left over 58 parts I think
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:22 pm
by rogerh
The 1959 Plymouth 318 did not come from the factory with dual fours.
However, there are 2x4 cast iron manifolds that fit the 318..(I had one for a while, but never put it on a car.)
Not being able to find my parts books, I cant tell you where the manifolds came from, what year or model.
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:26 pm
by rogerh
I will have to unpack my JoHan promo, take a picture of it and post it on the site. It is light blue. Recently I bought a (*58!) Belvedere model, made by AMT Ertl. So far I have only the engine glued together. I bought it with thoughts of modifying it to ressemble a 59, but that isnt really possible...