'59 Plymouth Forum

Dick, great picutres! I am taking notes on the body insulators locations.

The one that has me scatching my head on is the Drivers Side (and the passenger side too) biscuit inside the car on the floor pan. I can see installing the ones underneath to do, but in the few Finned Dodges, De Soto's and my 59 that I have seen, the big fender washer is making contact with the floor boards with no rubber bushing present. Maybe mine rotted away and previous owner(s) just tightened it down some more rather then getting a replacement biscuit. Was there a bushing there when you started on it? How about your green SF? Was there a bushing there?

Keep the pictures coming! I just ordered my insulator bushings today. Should be here next week for me to follow your instructions! Learning from you guys a lot!

John Q

John - I had a hard time figuring out what goes where. Thank God I had the green car to reference. The inner bisquits are to isolate the floor pan from the frame or frame brackets. The bottom bisquits are to isolate the frame brackets from the floor pan. some take two, some take three. What's baffeling to me is the one at the door opening and the very front one which is metal to metal. Go figure. Where there is a 3/4" hole it takes a bisquit with a protrusion to isolate the bolt from the metal so as to not pick up any noise or vibration. Where the heavy washers contact metal it's for more support, as long as there is a bisquit there the vibration and noise is absorbed. All I know is it works.
Regards,
Dick.

Good morning Dick, Thanks for the clarification. If it works for yours, then it should work for mine too!

A friend of mine here in Denver just bought a 57 De Soto Fire Dome Convert that has been in storage by the original owner since 1986, It is a rubber mat interior car like mine. I am going over to his shop some time this week to see if I can take some pictures of his mounts just for grins.

Either way, I am going to duplicate your method of where to put the isolaters. Looks like I need to buy a couple more isolators.

John Q.

Hello Dick,
This info is great. Hopefully Dn can put a tag on this thread so people interested in body mounts, etc can read this.
Dick, I how you can"flesh out" your experience with rubber body cushions...it has not been made clear what you ordered, from whom, what arrived, and how you applied such parts to your restoration.

O K - I will try to remember. Where possible use a bisquit with a protrustion in 3/4" hole in body.
A = Bisquit with protrusion. Gary Goers #339C
B = Plain Bisquit. Gary Goers #294
C = Bisquit with tit. Gary Goers #365

1. Rear of trunk - A on top of frame rail facing up. This has a captured nut.
A inside trunk with wide washer on top and bottom facing down.
2. Rear inner frame rail - A facing up. This has a captured nut.
A inside car with wide washer facing down. Use short shoulder bolt.
3. Front of rear tire bracket - A on top of bracket facing up. B on bottom of bracket with wide washer. A inside facing down with wide washer.

4. Middle - metal to metal on bottom. I used A facing down with wide washer inside.

5. Rear of front tire - A on top of bracket facing up. B on bottom of bracket with wide washer. B inside with wide washer.

6. Very front behind inner fender - Metal to Metal. Mine had a 3/8" threaded rod. there is a heavy cupped washer on top with the smaller surface facing up. There is a thin cupped washer with a 3/8" hole that fits on top as a quide for the threaded rod (cup down). Heavy washers top and bottom with lock washers.

7. The trunk floor rest on top of a Bisquit (C) that has a tit on one side that fits in a hole on top of the frame rail. You can get these from Gary Goers.

Use heavy thick washers where possible or double thin washers.

This is the best I could figure out looking at the green car and and a 4 dr. parts car I have and not looking under the carpet.

I have 13 of the Plain Bisquits (no protrusion) at my cost $2.00 ea. Plus flat rate postage of $5.00.

Dick.

All this talk about biscuits , I'm getting hungry.

Roger - I can fix you right up, they are $2 buck each. KFC's are better though.
Dick.

Mom used to make biscuits using Bisquick (sp?). Yummy!

Dick, if you are selling those 12 biscuits, I am would like to buy them. That is if Roger does not want them. I already had an order in with Gary G. for some but I need to order some more for my car and my friends 57 De Soto convert.

Let me know...

John Q.

Thanks John. I prefer the ones from KFC!

We have Popeys Chicken out here in Colorado (we do have KFC) I like there biscuits better!

John Q.

No Problem John, send me your mailing address at koch1068@bellsouth.net. We have Popeyes here in West Palm Beach Area Also. Popeyes started in New Orleans, my home town and are now offering crawfish, a Louisiana staple. But I still prefer KFC original breasts, they are whole, big and juicey.
Dick.

All this talk about chicken and biscuits is making me hungry!

Too bad it's only 8:30 A.M. though.

---John

MO PITCHERS, STUFF I'M DOIN WHILE WAITING FOR MY FRIEND THE WELDER.

Great pictures Dick. Was this what you had sent me in an email? If so, they show what a great job in getting to the underlying corrosion problems and remedying them. You won't ever have to go back and do it again!

Keep the Pictures coming!

John Q.
(current owner of Dick's rubber biscuits!)