Not a Plymouth and not even a 59

Website · Post by **Ron Keij** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:45 pm

Hi guys,

I know it is not a Plymouth and not even a 59 but I want to show my wife's new old car to the rest of the world. We just bought her last night and she is a beautiful 1958 Pontiac Chieftain. The car is all original, even the paint is from 1958! The body is solid as a rock and most of the chrome looks great. The engine and other mechanical parts will have to prove their reliability in the near future, the car hasn't been driven for almost 4 years. So she probably needs some preparation before she can try to keep up with the Sport Fury

Ron and marjo

Zeus · Post by **Zeus** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:17 pm

Man Ron... She's a beut! Congrats to you and your wife on your new baby... Not every day you come across a ride like that!

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:51 pm

Love it Ron, those are very rare especially here in Canada.....
Great find!

Bob

batmobile · Post by **batmobile** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:31 am

that's a real nice indian! don't see to many of them, looks like u found an exceptionally solid one too.

hope the drivetrain is as nice as the rest of the car. btw, what tranny does it have? powerglide or three on the tree? --j

rogerh · Post by **rogerh** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:50 am

more fun for Ron and Marjo...!

Post by **Faulkner** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:02 am

Hey Ron, I just checked -- www.1958pontiac.net isn't registered yet!

Dan

Website · Post by **Ron Keij** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:28 pm

batmobile wrote:that's a real nice indian! don't see to many of them, looks like u found an exceptionally solid one too. hope the drivetrain is as nice as the rest of the car. btw, what tranny does it have? powerglide or three on the tree? --j

We will find out about the drivetrain soon I hope! The car will be here wednesdaynight on a trailer, it hasn't been driven in more than three years and I am a little afraid to start her for the first time. Any tips on what to do and also tips on what we absolutely shouldn't do are welcome!

It's not a three on the tree car but I don't know if it is a powerglide. it is an automatic for sure, I know torqueflite's and powerflite's but I do not know a lot about Pontiac's

Soon enough I will have to learn "Pontiac" though. Have been looking for a nice and friendly 1958 Pontiac forum but so far I haven't found one.

Ron

Website · Post by **Ron Keij** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:39 pm

Faulkner wrote:Hey Ron, I just checked -- www.1958pontiac.net isn't registered yet!

Dan

I guess it will be unregistered for a while too

Somebody told me how much work it is to keep a website up to date and I already have a hard time keeping up with this forum. And besides I think those GM owners aren't as nice as the Mopar guys

Ron

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:49 pm

Ron Keij wrote:
Faulkner wrote:Hey Ron, I just checked -- www.1958pontiac.net isn't registered yet!

Dan
And besides I think those GM owners aren't as nice as the Mopar guys

Ron

What???

I beg to differ!!!

Bob

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:43 pm

Ron Keij wrote:

It's not a three on the tree car but I don't know if it is a powerglide. it is an automatic for sure, I know torqueflite's and powerflite's but I do not know a lot about Pontiac's Soon enough I will have to learn "Pontiac" though. Have been looking for a nice and friendly 1958 Pontiac forum but so far I haven't found one.

Ron

Easy way to tell what trans it has, on the shifter quadrant if its a powerglide it will read PRNDL but if its a Turboglide it will be PRNDGr, the Gr standing for "grade retard"
Being that that car is a US Pontiac, (Canadian ones were Chevs with a smaller Pontiac body) it may read PNDLR or PNDGrR ......

And who says GM guys arent nice??? lol

Bob

BHWINC · Post by **BHWINC** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:17 pm

It's going to be a Hydramatic if built in the states, a few came with the 3spd standards but not many..

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:42 am

Yes youre right, it would be a hydramatic.......

Bob

Website · Post by **Ron Keij** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:56 am

Nighthawk wrote: Easy way to tell what trans it has, on the shifter quadrant if its a powerglide it will read PRNDL but if its a Turboglide it will be PRNDGr, the Gr standing for "grade retard"
Being that that car is a US Pontiac, (Canadian ones were Chevs with a smaller Pontiac body) it may read PNDLR or PNDGrR ......

And who says GM guys arent nice??? lol

Bob

Sorry Bob, I think your a nice GM/Mopar guy

It is a US car, as far as I know it was built in San Diego. Probably was in San Diego until it came to the Netherlands in 1999. My wife is the second owner in the Netherlands and we have the paperwork from the last owner in the US. He owned the car from 1982 until 1999 and kept all bills with the car. A search with Yahoo people finder gave me his current address and phone number and he will get a call from me soon.

The trans is a Hydramatic I guess, the picture of the dash shows no Gr. as you can see in the picture.

Thanks for your info!

Ron

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:49 pm

Yeah it is a hydramatic, powerglides and turboglides were 2 speeds, that one is a 3 speed.
In those days US Pontiacs were a bigger and fancier car than Canadian ones, which as i said earlier were essentially Chevs with Pontiac sheet metal.very similar to what we called a Plodge which was a Plymouth with a Dodge front end.
Dont know why they did stuff like that in those days either!

Bob

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:54 pm

Also, heres a guy who might be able to answer any questions you have Ron..

http://www.kingoftheroad.net/pontiac_ht ... iac_5.html

Bob

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Not a Plymouth and not even a 59

Not a Plymouth and not even a 59